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Old 12-01-2008, 09:14 PM
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"Not for Hire" - Reloaded

I am outing takes from some of my private writings if you will. Here I intend to give a revelation concernnig the significance of displaying "Not for Hire" on an automobile especially one that does not have a lien on it due to a current car note.

What Is Owner?
First and foremost lets look at the definition of "owner". This definitions comes from State of Nevada's gaming regulations and has to do with owning horses.

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30.118 “Owner” defined. “Owner” means the owner, part owner or lessee of a horse. An interest in only the earnings of a horse does not constitute wnership. A husband and wife are presumed to be in joint ownership of a horse.
That definition might not seem to be related, horses and horseless carriages can both be used for travel. This next definiton is from MICHICAN MOTOR VEHICLE CODE.

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“Owner” defined.
Sec. 37. “Owner” means any of the following:
(a) Any person, firm, association, or corporation renting a motor vehicle or having the exclusive use thereof, under a lease or otherwise, for a period that is greater than 30 days.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in section 401a, a person who holds the legal title of a vehicle.
(c) A person who has the immediate right of possession of a vehicle under an installment sale contract.
Notice both definitions have to do with renting or a lease.

A Little Greek.
There are folks who do not take it upon themselves to master the language that they speak--believing that the public school system is good enough. However, let's consider that the term 'own' does not necessarily or intrisincally refer to an exclusive right to enjoy a thing.

In Greek, there is a word that translitterates to "idios". There is another that transliterates to: 'heautou'. Both words are translated in Biblical texts to refer to "ownership" or "owning" or "own". One word has to do with exclusive ownership. Another has to do with shared ownership. If I were to refer to "My own langauge" I might used the word idios to show that I share that language with others. If I were to refer to a wife which is exclusively my wife and no others' wife I might instead use the word 'heautou'. (At 1 Cor. 7:2 to knowledge both words are utilized--heautou to show exclusive 'ownership', 'idios' to show shared 'ownership'. They are both translated to 'own' in the KJV.)

A Little More English.
The point is that own in the English language and associated dialects does not by default refer to exclusive right to enjoy or possess a thing unless the word exclusive preceeds the word. "I am the exclusive owner of this car".



From the many Certificates of Title that I've seen issued by States of the United States there is room for at least one "owner" and at least two "lienholders".

Many States from what I gather give you about thirty days from a sale of a 'motor vehicle' before the motor vehicle must be registered. Similarly if you lease or rent a car for more than thirty days, it appears that some kind of registration might be required.

A Miami based rental company has this sentence in its rental policy:

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In NO event can car remain on rent on any one rental agreement for more than thirty days.
Could that maybe be because if you rent for more than thirty days, it has to be registered with STATE OF FLORIDA? Feel free to study major rental car companies' rental agreements.

Put Your Car Up for Rent?
Owners of megayachts dont necessarily let them sit on mothballs. The same goes for private jets. They sometimes put them up for rent or charter by OPERATORS of charter companies. Could it be that you can do the same with your automobile--and that when you get a license plate that is exactly what you or the finance company are applying for?

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I could go on for a hundred pages but the above was to shed light on the significance of the "NOT FOR HIRE SIGN". Some asserts that it has to do with saying that you are not offering services or involved in commece. Well there is more to it.



That is supposedly a rental car. There is nothing that makes that car distinct from a car that is not for rent. That is, how could a a police officer of highway patrol officer tell that car from a car that is not being rented by a rental car company or one that is under an installment plan (which might very well be a long-term lease until its paid off) unless you do someething to make it clear?

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The truth is that they can tell a lot from running the plate:
[1] lienholder information can be put in DMV records since it appears on titles;
[2] if a rental car company is named in the records to be an owner or lienholder it would be obvious that the car is a rental car;
[3] the lack of a lienholder would make it clear that the finance company the 'installment plan is no longer in effect. (Why is it that finance companies drop their lienholder status while owners continue with their owner status?)

But even still: they dont know if the one behind the wheel is/represents a lienholder because you could have put your car up for rent to make money.
If you lent your car to someone for two weeks, would you want them to be able to go 90 MPH without impunity? Well whether you do or dont, the rental car companies probably want you to go the speed limit. They probably also want you to have insurance of some kind when you rent a car (go back up and read the definitions for 'owner').



If you do not make it clear that the car you are traveling vis-a-vis is not a rental car, then you will likely be presumed to be a (non-exclusive) owner driving a rental car (non-exclusivley) owned by an operator of a rental car company. The NOT FOR HIRE sign make sit clear that the automobile is not only NOT FOR RENT for those interested but that it is not being rented or that there is no reason to presume that the automobile is being rented or is available for rent. You can help reduce the workload on police officers by putting a NOT FOR HIRE sign on your car.

Last edited by allodial; 12-02-2008 at 10:55 PM.
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